I added a little rate limiting to the post submission. The little bit of spam we got often comes in the form of posting an absurd number of posts all at once. From most of the conversations I've had with others when bringing up spam it seems the majority have not seen any. That means I've done my job well. But never the less it has been happening and that is the typical format.

I did set it a bit aggressively to see if it can also help out in a few other areas. One is bot posters. Not quite spam but getting kind of close. One of the details of the spam rule here is that promotion is OK but not if users dislike it. Well, their posts have been getting upvotes and the content seems ok. It's not even promotion. So it is not spam. But it tends to be able to slide the site a little bit, so while I asked them to at least spread their posts out a bit, we'll give them a little help and make it manditory.

The last possible side benefit is culture shaping. I have mentioned in other comments that I want to encourage goatmatrix toward project-oriented content rather than just news dumping, along with other higher value content. This was a substancial portion of the content when the site was smaller, especially back when @HQDP was around and when myself, JasonCarswell, and LarrySwinger had many active projects.

Since Saidit's major migration there has been a shift in content. I don't consider the news to be bad or negative content. It's just the lowest of what I would consider good content, within a concept one could call The Pyramid of Content.

In case that image doesn't load for anyone the pyramid is basically a ranked list of high value content to low value.

• Sharing projects
• Organizing real action
• Learning new things and skills
• Talking about ideas
• Self-improvement
• Funny/Entertainment
• The news
• Complaining about reality
• Arguments with strangers online
• Peacocking assholeness

Below then news you get into genuinely bad content. The news is the very bottom of what is good content. It is good content. Just the very bottom of it. The problem is that if everyone univerally upvotes everything that is good, which includes the news, then very good content can never rise above it. The score difference between good and great is very flat. At that point what determines the ratio of good content to great content is the amount they are posted. And unfortunately news is very easy to link to in bulk, and great content takes effort. A single user can decide, "I'm going to post all the news," And it will be all anyone sees. And that becomes what a site is. The very bottom of what can be considered good.

Now if GoatMatrix becomes just a news site I guess that's ok. But it's not what it was exclusively before the migration. I don't think this is a scale problem where beyond a specific threshold the culture automatically shifts. More people means more hobbies and more interests. To me the real issue is just momentum.

It's a bit like the migrant problem. A migrant never gets to spend a significant amount of time seeing how the culture operates without him. Even a good migrant runs into this problem. And so while they might come from a good culture, they don't understand the opportunity costs associated with losing the specific advantages the prior culture had. So it becomes the job of the original inhabitants to try to argue for those practices and demonstrate the advantages. And that is only possible if the new migrant hasn't already dominated the space. That doesn't mean the mirgrant isn't valuable or doesn't have things to offer. But it might be good to pause and consider what the original culture has to offer so we can figure out what the ideal hybrid looks like.

How this relates to a pretty agressive rate limit is, well, if the side consequence is it makes it harder for a single user to post a large list of news articles, and submitting them to post whenever isn't really an option because the media will have zero value very soon, then maybe that's not a bad thing. It won't kill the news. It will just make it harder to link dump it and it will leave space for other content that doesn't have ephermeral value.

Maybe it is a bit agresive and it likely can be relaxed later, but I want to give people a chance to see a different site before we lock into all news all the time and nothing else. And of course the news will still get posted. But maybe mass news posters will have to pick just the best stories for a little while. It's an experiment.

The other thing you can do to contribute to the experiment is taking on a challenge I want to issue. For every user to post at least one thing higher on the pyramid than the news. Let's see what the front page looks like. Maybe we'll like it. This is even a chance for the lurkers to step out of the shadows and post something. And not only could you post one thing higher on the pyramid. You can post many. This is what the post whenever feature excels at. If what you are posting doesn't have emphemeral value you can post it in bulk. Then we can post the news sparingly (not zero) and post higher value things in bulk instead of the other way around like happens on most sites.

Let's try it for a week and see what we think.