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Senate unanimously agrees to oppose pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell(thehill.com)
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[-]Tom_Bombadil2(+1|0)

Is that really her?

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[-]newJiminy2(+1|0)

No

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[-]Tom_Bombadil1(0|0)

Looks the the wife from Home Improvement.

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[-]RickSanchez1(+1|-1)

Blame Bill Gates for this, he always gets away with his evil.

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[-]x0x71(0|0)

Probably a mistake to testify without a pardon locked in. Fauci seems to know what a fifth amendment is.

My question is if fifth amendments should apply when government business is involved. Because then the fifth amendment changes from being a protection of the people from the state, to a protection of the state from the people.

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[-]newJiminy1(0|0)

How do you literally make him talk. Torture? Fifth amendment is clear in the language. Fauci committed crimes, they should investigate those crimes. Obviously he isn't going to incriminate himself.

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[-]x0x71(0|0)

If Howley is to be believed, Fauci doesn't have a Fifth Amendment right. Supposedly after you've been pardoned you don't have a Fifth Amendment right in relation to crimes that you've been pardoned for.

But it is possible he has more recent crimes he's committed where testimony regarding the past would relate.

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[-]newJiminy1(0|0)

I feel that's just nonsense talk by these political talking heads, they need some thing to talk about. Give people hope so they tune in. The fifth amendment doesn't say anything about not counting for someone that was pardoned. If we want it to we need to vote on a new amendment to the constitution. Not likely. I'm a fifth amendment absolutist. I don't like fauci but I'll fight to the death to defend his rights. He didn't want to commit perjury. He's pardoned for stuff till January 2025, that's passed, if he commits new crimes like perjury he can go to jail.

Trump just said he respects biden for pardoning fauci. Trump says biden used an auto pen so all of his pardons shouldn't count, except the one for fauci is all good. Trumps a fauci pal. If fauci somehow got arrested for something, trump would pardon him again. Rand Paul's senate committee can ask questions but trumps DOJ won't do anything to investigate covid.

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[-]x0x71(0|0)

It could be. But he quoted a supreme court decision on the matter. The Fifth Amendment kind of does. It says you can't be compelled to testify and incriminate yourself in a criminal proceeding. But if you are immune there is no current or future criminal proceeding.

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[-]newJiminy1(0|0)

What Supreme Court decision, wild guess, it actually disproves that? Why would Supreme Court even listen to such a case, fifth amendment is clear. Why waste time. Just don't let them give you false hope. When that gets shattered people get nihilistic.

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[-]x0x71(0|0)

It's Brown v. Walker.

Why would the supreme court here a fifth amendment case? Because it's their job. They've handled dozens of fifth amendment cases.

Also:

Acceptance is a strict requirement for a pardon to take effect and strip Fifth Amendment protections. In the 1915 case Burdick v. United States, the Court ruled that a pardon carries an "imputation of guilt" and can be rejected; if an individual refuses the pardon, they retain their right to plead the Fifth to avoid testifying. This creates a strategic dilemma where accepting clemency removes criminal liability but exposes the recipient to compelled testimony and potential perjury charges if they lie.

When Fauci chose to accept the pardon he waived his fifth amendment rights.

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[-]newJiminy2(+1|0)

They decline cases all the time and we should be glad when they don't waste taxpayer cash. So now going forward since they already ruled on this in freakin 1896 they shouldn't reentertain it.

Why not just investigate covid. Faucis coconspirators don't all have pardons. We're encouraged to focus all our hate on one man like with Emmanuel Goldstein.

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[-]RickSanchez2(+1|0)

The 2-minute hate: https://youtu.be/0KeX5OZr0A4

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[-]x0x72(+1|0)

Well, they did here this one, and then made a decision about it. So that's the law.

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[-]RickSanchez2(+1|0)

Autopen wrote a pardon. Fauci is not the only one; they should try Bill Gates too for his vaccine efforts.

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[-]newJiminy2(+1|0)

This is about trump pardoning Maxwell, why did he say he might do that lol. He's pals with fauci and gates

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