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Major Japanese electronics store begs customers for their old PCs as hardware drought continues(www.tomshardware.com)
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[-]JasonCarswell3(+3|0)

Yesterday I just received an old PC tower that might be 20+ years old. Don't know if there's much I can do with it - or when I'll have a minute to see. I have 5 or 6 more like that.

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[-]RickSanchez3(+3|0)

Install Linux on them.

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[-]JasonCarswell2(+2|0)

That's my intention. Have done with Lubuntu before. Light.

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[-]x0x71(+1|0)

I'm still seeing that even the cheapest possible phones on Amazon have more than 4x the RAM my laptop has.

Maybe it's time to rewrite some software. These applications don't have genuine reasons to use this much RAM. Let's consider a case where a computer has 32 gigs of RAM. Because access patterns aren't really random we can sort the data by how frequently it will be accessed. If we had a very fast memory bus with duel channel, and DDR5 memory we would have a bandwidth of 100G/s. This means that the least accessed data must have an access rate of at least higher than 0.3 seconds. More likely it's living on there for hours without being accessed. Even a classical disk has a latency of 7ms. An SSD has a latency of 0.05ms.

100% if you are using all of the 32 gigs of RAM there should be data that is on disk instead. Even if you are using hard disk you can access it 42 times faster than that data could possibly demand even in the most extreme case.

This is why it is correct for prices to rise. Prices are signals for how behavior should change. It does make more sense to use RAM in graphics cards where it genuinely can offer more capibilities. And it makes zero sense to use 32 gigs of RAM on the CPU side of a personal work station. It doesn't make your computer faster. If somehow it does and you are running into performance issues otherwise then that is a software problem. Choose better software.

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[-]JasonCarswell2(+2|0)

Choose better software.

Software is like government, always saying they'll decrease the bloat, but never do.

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[-]x0x71(+1|0)

So you rip that shit out and install new... software.

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[-]HiddenFox1(+1|0)

I purchased "CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 last December for $178 taxes in. Thought it was high at the time but I splurged on the CL30 for an extra $40.

Today that exact same kit sells for $887 taxes in. Fucking ridiculous. This bubble is insane. When it pops I pray they don't get bail outs and all these fuckers are forced to live in destitute for the rest of their lives but hey, we all know that's not happening.

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