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What do you think would happen if Iran bombed all of the data centers in Northern Virginia?(self)
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First, the plausibility.

  1. These data centers are highly accessible. You could hit many of them with a thrown rock; they are so close to publicly accessible land.

  2. Iran could very easily develop assets in the US, either by moving them through the border or by developing sympathetic or manipulated assets through standard human intelligence practices.

  3. Iran has consistently been able to provide ranged explosive resources like rockets to Hamas and Hezbollah despite significant import restrictions and interdiction efforts.

The motive:

  1. These data are a significant resource within the backbone of the US military industrial complex.
  2. It would introduce inconvenience to both the public and the corporate world.
  3. So far, these wars have been allowed by the public despite zero benefit because they have also been experienced as zero cost.
  4. No one likes these data centers and may actually improve Iran's PR, critically above Israel's, which isn't a hard bar to pass for the US public right now.

But how would this play out in the long run if they did this? Would it successfully deter the US? Or would it give the US public the motive to back the US's efforts in earnest? So far, the US doesn't have any good answers for why we are attacking Iran. But that doesn't matter because the public doesn't need good answers. It doesn't cost us anything to let the US military do what it does, and few people worry too much if it is a sign that our military has been subverted against the public's interests. But more people might think about that if these wars mildly impact them with low casualty attacks that they would never experience if the US pursued only its own interests.

BTW, these buildings have almost no one in them. Mostly empty. Knocking a hole in the correct side of one would lead to zero casualties and would avoid the human impact story that would hurt Iran's public perception relative to Israel. Even despite that, if the public were honest, they'd realize that one AWS guard is literally nothing compared to children being carpet bombed by Israel. Is there a PR war for US public opinion between Iran and Israel? Am I wrong to think Iran is winning that war at every level except the political class? They are pretty murderous, but not committing genocide is a pretty substantial advantage.

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[-]JasonCarswell1(+1|0)

Knowing they are a public infrastructure, if I were part of the evil ruling class, besides building them far underground, I would design data centers to be as modular, redundant, and decentralized as possible. Take out one section/wing and the rest should operate as normal - if drives aren't ruined by shellshock or EMPs. I would also build more of them than necessary - as decoys, and concentration camps.

If Iran could destroy the data centers that are most contested in the US, for water, noise, toxins, etc. then I suspect citizens would not mind one bit - assuming it didn't create worse problems (ie. radioactive tipped bombs wouldn't need to penetrate data center roofs like tanks).

People got upset with ICE because that was the point - also there was support. I'd guess with some imaginative brainstorming with realistic predictions of fallout, blowback, and trickle-down ramifications - I'm sure we or Iran could come up with a bunch of practical asymmetrical strategies to impact Americans. In addition to the actionable real-world psy-war aspects, there must be consideration for all the censorship, media control, and message control from TPTB. You'd need to anticipate a large number of pros, cons, dialectics, narratives, counter-narratives, etc. - and have plausible plans and course corrections for all outcomes.

if the public were honest, they'd realize that one AWS guard is literally nothing compared to children being carpet bombed by Israel.

True, but the general public has no interest in honesty. They've been brainwashed by team sports, logical fallacies, and the belief anyone can become a millionaire since birth.

Is there a PR war for US public opinion between Iran and Israel?

Israel is always at war. Some people are sick of it. I don't know that Iran is doing much besides not falling for the bait and games. Rather than engaging in war, they're just being real. Everything speaks for itself if folks pay attention. And that seems to be the best strategy.

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[-]xoenix1(+1|0)

Hastens the AI and cheap cloud computing financial apocalypse.

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[-]x0x71(+1|0)

It might be the only way for it to happen fast enough.

The other way is also war related but not tied to destroyed data centers. AI is operating at a loss. If the military wants all the inference and is willing to pay cost plus for it, if they take up all the supply, there may be no more under-priced plans for civilians. Once people are paying the real cost, people will just learn how to program again.

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[-]JasonCarswell1(+1|0)

A.I. augmented ruling class verses DIY humanity.

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[-]xoenix1(+1|0)

Social media will be forced to scale back to plain text.

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[-]newJiminy-1(0|-1)

We make some more with fiat money.

They need to assassinate our leaders, that's why killing ayatollah was great. That's only way to win wars.

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[-]x0x71(+1|0)

In an ideal world, war would lead to zero civilian deaths and only deaths of politicians.

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[-]newJiminy2(+2|0)

Want that ideal world? First kill all world leaders and their families. That'd save millions of lives. Especially kill all rothschilds

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