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how does goatmatrix make money to keep its site online?(self)
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[-]x0x73(+3|0)

It doesn't cost much. But people can still donate if they want. https://goatmatrix.net/c/MatrixDev/4miJtAY9sG

The time cost is way way way more than the hosting cost. Hosting cost is practically zero. It's 90:1 easily. So if you do donate you are paying for time, not hosting.

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[-]soundsituation0(0|0)

I always found the claim that it took ~$1500/month just to keep Ovarit afloat unbelievable. The site admins/mods were (allegedly) working for free, so the money couldn't have gone there. They said it went to "website hosting, traffic analytics, payment processor fees, taxes, and a deployment service (for software changes), business registration and email service".

Does that seem off to you too? I also think it's sus that they even registered the site as a business in the first place.

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[-]x0x71(+1|0)

It seems off and not off. Tech has a lot of idiot taxes. It's as expensive or cheap as you are willing to put in the research to make it.

People who are very detail oriented in tech and want to do everything themselves will move very slow and have very little time for marketing.

People who instantly pay as much as possible really don't get better service but they do save the time measuring their options so they get sites up fast and now only have time for community development and marketing. So most temporally successful sites are run in the least cost effective way possible.

But the success is temporary because they can't pay those bills, and the most tech they really know is click check box to launch site. Maybe a little more, but not enough to overhaul their technical debt over the span of a whole site. So anywhere they migrate will over bill them the same with the same check box make site on convenience. Sometimes its a false convenience because you can't actually remove complexity and have the needed to control to have a site. Buy they buy perceived loss of complexity with potempkin simplification, and they will always be billed for it.

I pay $2 a month for this site. I just launched another server for another site I could in theory migrate this one to that is $10 a year. Know how databases work and know how to implement algos yourself when databases aren't fast enough and you can run almost anything on $10 a year.

But you can use Azure and MS-SQL with no caching and the worst data access patterns possible and you can pay any number you are dumb enough to pay.

OG voat was like $5000 a month. It could have been run on $30 a month easily.

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[-]Tom_Bombadil1(+1|0)

He used to work under the Queensboro bridge...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkW4HkWVYrY&t=0

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